Milton Friedman while testifying before congress once addressed Ted Kennedy Thusly "Senator, socialism has failed everywhere it's been tried for over 6000 years of recorded human history. why do you still defend it?" (that's probably not the exact quote but i'm going from memory)
Kennedy knew the history but was so ridiculously hubristic (is that a word?) that he answered "socialism has failed because they didn't have me to run it for them"
So no it's not frustrating being on the "wrong side" of history. It's frustrating knowing the actual history, and watching ignorant people cheer as we race toward the same mistakes and pitfalls that every great society before us fell into and which ultimately brought about their doom.
However I see hope in the tea party and I am cautiously optimistic that we can still turn this thing around.
The thing is though that universal healthcare is obviously possible since every other major industrialized nation on the planet has it. The socialism bugaboo was used to argue against Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and no doubt child labor laws and the minimum wage.
If you're hopes rest with the tea baggers, then I am afraid you will be very much disappointed over the next few years.
As always you miss the point. These aren't Tea Party companies and orgs 'opting out', these are Obamacares biggest supporters running as far away from this pile of dogshit as possible?
Why do you think that is? I already answered, it's a pile of dogshit.
...and may very well be the most corrupt payoff ever perpetuated by the federal govt.
This plan is not universal health care. It is punitive. It punishes people who would rather pay for care they need and simply purchase catastrophic insurance. It violates our rights.
People keep mentioning the mandatory auto insurance as this glowing example of beautiful coersion, and fail to mention that you can opt for very minimal coverage without collision and opt to fix your car yourself.
Why not just expand the pre-existing medicare-medicaid system and allow a buy in?
My issue is not with a solution to health care or making plans available. My problem is with forcing people to enter into financial arrangements with private insurance companies against our will.
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It's not universal yet but we'll get there. It must be frustrating always being on the losing side of history.
Milton Friedman while testifying before congress once addressed Ted Kennedy Thusly "Senator, socialism has failed everywhere it's been tried for over 6000 years of recorded human history. why do you still defend it?" (that's probably not the exact quote but i'm going from memory)
Kennedy knew the history but was so ridiculously hubristic (is that a word?) that he answered "socialism has failed because they didn't have me to run it for them"
So no it's not frustrating being on the "wrong side" of history. It's frustrating knowing the actual history, and watching ignorant people cheer as we race toward the same mistakes and pitfalls that every great society before us fell into and which ultimately brought about their doom.
However I see hope in the tea party and I am cautiously optimistic that we can still turn this thing around.
The thing is though that universal healthcare is obviously possible since every other major industrialized nation on the planet has it. The socialism bugaboo was used to argue against Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and no doubt child labor laws and the minimum wage.
If you're hopes rest with the tea baggers, then I am afraid you will be very much disappointed over the next few years.
As always you miss the point. These aren't Tea Party companies and orgs 'opting out', these are Obamacares biggest supporters running as far away from this pile of dogshit as possible?
Why do you think that is? I already answered, it's a pile of dogshit.
...and may very well be the most corrupt payoff ever perpetuated by the federal govt.
This plan is not universal health care. It is punitive. It punishes people who would rather pay for care they need and simply purchase catastrophic insurance. It violates our rights.
People keep mentioning the mandatory auto insurance as this glowing example of beautiful coersion, and fail to mention that you can opt for very minimal coverage without collision and opt to fix your car yourself.
Why not just expand the pre-existing medicare-medicaid system and allow a buy in?
My issue is not with a solution to health care or making plans available. My problem is with forcing people to enter into financial arrangements with private insurance companies against our will.
Well Lynn we are in agreement again.
My suggestion has been to deregulate the insurance industry. It would bring competition up and rates down.
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