If you insist..... "Now abuse by the BUREAUCRACIES is another matter. The good taxpayers have paid $300 a week for me to help get a bratty teen to the bus on time. The taxpayers have paid for me to have self esteem raising lunches each week billed at 55/hr. to medicaid. If you want reforms, THAT is what needs to be looked at more than the people." So sayeth Carmen just for example.Carmen I implied no such thing...as usual you are wrong when you make such assumptions Tara this war, like every other war in history is going horribly...people are dying and suffering, towns are burning...I imagine like every other war it will remain that way until we win, lose, or retreat. I know which result Im hoping for.
Lets see...Im an ass, a wingnut and a parrot. Now thats constructive discussion. Carmen I actually did defer to two of the things you cited as examples from your personal experience. I have never singled out the individual or the bureaucracy I blamed both. You hear what you want to hear.Its rather silly for us to stick our head in the ground and say there is no need for further reform. In fact I would wager that I could dig through the site's archives and find this exact discussion where all would be in agreement, yet since I am involved it becomes a quarrelsome matter. To be completely honest I was thinking that this thread would revolve around my SAC. Disregarding those that are unable to fend for themselves, the justification and intent of welfare should be for the promotion of self-dependancy and the escape of the gerbil wheel of poverty. If you think that we are doing everything that we could as a society and as efficiently as possible then perhaps it is I that should walk away from this thread and allow y'all to continue your ostrichassery.In closing I would like to say....LETS GO METS!!!
Ok Carmen you win. You are smart and I am stupid. You cited specific examples you are awesome (were they really needed?), I didnt (were they really needed?), I suck. Ok now that thats out of the way and you got to cite your professional expertise...get to frickin work and fix it big shot. My expertise* lies elsewhere. At least we can finally agree it needs fixing, as opposed to the asinine argument that it doesnt.You know Im not a geologist either but I can you with great authority that there is a pretty big gap between the Grand Canyon....and you call me parrot again I will personally hunt down and kill Jimmy Buffett.
Sometimes I neither have the time or the means at my disposal to engage you in a full frontal debate and sometimes I deem the facts to be so overwhelming to be unneccesarry. Look at the thread to this comment. Welfare is working this, Re: Welfare isnt broke mutha farka that. Forgive me if I was sidetracked by the real issue at hand.Murder is bad. Thats it. No specific examples will be cited. ...and if you so dare touch any Zappa family member...my guitar will kill your momma
That is the thinking that liberals disagree with
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