Monday, December 21, 2009

CREDIBLE SOURCES II

Getlive was wondering in a previous post what could be considered a credible source. I don't know for sure who IS a credible source but I can say I wouldn't trust anyone who stands to make millions of dollars one way or the other.

So if you can't trust the guys who are paid by the coal industry or the oil industry because those industries profit from a specific result, then you also have to dismiss anyone who profits from the "green technology" industry or whatever you want to call it.

Now if you tell me algore can be trusted even though he stands to make BILLIONS off of the "carbon trading" industry I'm telling you you're being naive but at least he's not a scientist and he also doesn't write the legislation. Of course the U.N. IPCC report is the final word that we always get from the left and from which they derive their "consensus" talk. They get their info from the now completely discredited East Anglia gang but I digress.

The author of the IPCC report is Dr Rajendra Pachauri. Now if it was to be determined that this guy is "on the take" then I think in fairness we would have to disqualify the IPCC along with the so called crooked "Exxon" scientists no?

Guess who stands to make many millions of dollars off the AGW "catastrophe"?

Guess who sits on boards of so called "green technology" and "carbon trading" companies.

Yes you guessed it right. Dr Rajendra Pachauri! Hey look, I'm as shocked as anyone but....well no, i'm actually not shocked about it but I am shocked that we're just hearing about it now....ok, i'm not shocked about that either. Thank God for the whistleblower who hacked the CRU computers. Climategate isn't going away.

27 comments:

Getlive said...

Good job on this on, Rhino. That's where I was headed on my post. I was taking baby steps but you got right into the meat. Where there is money to be made and politics to be had, I trust no information from ANY group pr source. I must use my own intellect and reason to figure it out and I say global warming caused by man is a bunch of BULL SHIT. Once again the left is so emotionally invested in global warming that they don't even see the corruption and special interests that exists on the "green" side. They are JUST LIKE THE BIG OIL COMPANIES! How dare they....

gary said...

I'm not going to defend Pachauri, who I've never heard of. This story raises questions as to his credibility.

As for "ClimateGate" it's already GONE. Because there's nothing there. Rewarming old bullshit just raises its temperature. It's still shit.

Getlive said...

Wait, you've never heard of him yet the IPCC is a credible source to you? A source that you so often use to back up your points?????

Rhino-itall said...

interesting...well gary let me introduce you to him...

Dr Rajendra Pachauri, chairman of the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) and mastermind of its latest report in 2007.

Although Dr Pachauri is often presented as a scientist (he was even once described by the BBC as “the world’s top climate scientist”), as a former railway engineer with a PhD in economics he has no qualifications in climate science at all.

CHAIRMAN OF THE IPCC!

Maybe you should get to know the man who you willingly follow into slavery.

baaaaaa...baaaaaaa....

gary said...

Screw you, moron. I don't believe you ever heard of this guy before you read this article either.

Rhino-itall said...

don't get upset with me. I never said i heard of the guy. in fact i don't know ANY of them. I never heard of East Anglia university, I never heard of CRU etc.

However I have been saying from day ONE that it was a political organization and the science is bullshit.
YOU have been saying the science is settled and YOU have believed the IPCC all along.

Now we find out that the chief author of the IPCC report has NO CLIMATE QUALIFICATIONS AT ALL!

Getlive said...

Hmmm, so does gary still think the IPCC is credible?

gary said...

He's Chairman according to the story. Probably an administrator. I find the IPCC more credible than the handful of Exxon-paid hacks and rightwingers on the other side.

Donkeyhue said...

Is that the "IPCC is rubber and Exxon is glue" rebuttal?

Pathetic.

gary said...

How does it feel to always be on the wrong side of history? Conservatives will come around eventually on GW, just like they did on Civil Rights, after we don't need them.

Rhino-itall said...

so that's you're argument? we're racists now or something like that?

Your argument against EVERY post we do is the source. Credibility!

According to you only a few thousand of the 30,000 plus scientists who signed the petition were actually trained in climate science.

OR they're paid by exxon.

Now we show you in fact that the chairman of the IPCC is not only NOT a scientist, but absolutely stands to benefit to the tune of at least tens of millions of dollars if AGW is accepted and your argument is ....ummm...we're racists?

You can lie to us all you want, but we all know the truth. You're not that bright but you're not stupid enough to still believe it 100%. The doubts have been building for some time now with you but you've been fighting them.

let it go man.

You don't have to admit it to us. just disappear and pretend it never happened. At least now you know the truth.

You're welcome.

gary said...

I am not saying you're racists. That was just a comment about how conservatives are usually on the wrong side of history.In the 50's and 60's almost all conseratives opposed the Civil Rights movement. Some were racist, some werent', most came around after the fact. But they were in the way at the time, on the wrong side, just like today's conservatives are on global warming. If you didn't understand all the words I used let me know and I'll explain them to you. You're welcome.

Donkeyhue said...

Yeah Rhino. You know those pesky conservatives like Robert "conscience of the senate: Byrd.

Now, Gary, Ill let this one slide, but if you go off topic again Im deleting your comments and will ban you. Your troll act has grown too tiresome.

This dude at the IPCC has been exposed as a shyster, you make excuses, then when confronted with facts you cant refute, you change the subject and call us racists.

Yawn.

gary said...

OK, let's not draw any historical parallels. Nothing you have posted draws into question the scientific evidence for AGW. ClimateGate is phony. The number of scientists on your side is getting smaller and smaller. The arctic ice cap is melting, not a claim, or an estimate but a FACT. The Greenland ice cap is melting, a FACT. You have yet to cite ONE peer-reviewed article. Not even that one that was the subject of some of the CRU emails, the one that was so bad half the editorial board resigned, but that you think proves the CONSPIRACY. Really, don't you ever get tired of being wrong and irrelevant?

Donkeyhue said...

There is no scientific evidence for AGW. None.

Getlive said...

gary, you are only fooling yourself. You have nothing. Just let it go.

gary said...

It's not that there is no evidence. There are thousands of peer-reviewed studies in major scientific journals. And of course the glaciers and ice caps can be and are measured. It's that you ignore all the evidence or dismiss it as part of the plot. You are blinded by a rightwing ideology.

Donkeyhue said...

There is zero evidence linking the smidgeon of man's carbon to the recent warming or the current cooling trend. Glaciers and ice caps melting proves nothing except that ice metls, big shocker, you have been unable to provide us any correlation between the two because there is none. None, or you would have linked it here ages ago.

gary said...

Well I have but you don't read my links. Ignoring evidence is not the same as no evidence. History will not be kind to the global warming skeptics.

Donkeyhue said...

So in other words, you have no proof. Nothing. Saying you have a girlfriend in Niagra Falls doesnt make it so.

gary said...

History will proceed without you and your fellow wingnuts.Leave it to us in the reality-based community.

Donkeyhue said...

History is the right word. As in "Save the Whales" or "Save the Rainforest" are now history as in long forgotten, as "Global Warming" will soon be.

Oh wait, its "Climate Change" now.

See what I mean.

Clown.

I wait in anticipation for the greenies next hobby du jour.

gary said...

Time will tell which of us is right.

Donkeyhue said...

You sure you wanna stick around? You aint been doing so hot...

We were right on Gitmo

We were right about Afganistan

We were right about Iraq

We were right about the bailouts

We were right about the stimulus

We were right about the Patiot Act

We were right about Rendition

We were right about Wiretaps

We were right about Executive Privilege

We were right about Bush

You were wrong about all of the above.

Dont take our word for it, Obama thinks we were right too.

gary said...

You were wrong about all of those things. You were right about Bush? If you thought he was a terrible President and an incompetent moron, you should have said so.

Donkeyhue said...

It's funny really. The man that campaigned against Bush and still constantly blames Bush is the man that will be most be responsible for validating Bush's legacy as a good President.

That all you libs have turned on a dime is of no suprise or consequence, we predicted that too. You libs lack principles and were never truly against any of those things that Bush did and now support that Obama is doing them
is disgusting.

gary said...

To the extent that the Obama administation has continued or defended some of the practices of the Bush administration and the national security state he has been strongly criticized by those on the left. You should spend more time looking at liberal sites and you wouldn't say such an uninformed thing.