Thursday, March 01, 2007

Is This Treason?

If it's an American citizen?

"We are a jihadist news service, and provide battle dispatches, training manuals, and jihad videos to our brothers worldwide. All we want is to get Allah’s pleasure. We will write ‘Jihad’ across our foreheads, and the stars. The angels will carry our message throughout the world."

Well it is an American citizen and a professor at Kent State University.

26 comments:

Anonymous said...

Well I know the freedom of speech issue will come up and the right to religion or fanaticism- but we also draw the line on behavior that is threatening or violating right?

I have had this argument many times and I say that this is not very different than,say, a group that threatens and plots against an abortion clinic or threatens other violent action. Then people tell me its the same as wanting to take free speech from the KKK. I dont think its the same. I think terror sympathy is bullshit.

I think its one thing to tolerate expression and diversity, another to promote the death of Americans or solidarity with people that killed thousands of our citizens.

Maybe it makes me closed minded but there's a line. Isnt there a damn line?

Rhino-itall said...

Yes there is a line. In fact, if this guy was just talking i would still want to kick his ass but wouldn't be in a hurry to prosecute him, however he says he's providing training manuals to our enemies. Isn't aiding our enemies treason?

Also, how does the state of Ohio keep him on the payroll? shouldn't this be enough to fire him?

gary said...

I would say he should be fired. Sounds like he is indoctrinating his students not teaching them.

I disagree with the author when he says this guy should be arrested and tortured. Torture is a violation of U.S. and international law and anyone who practices or authorizes it should be prosecuted.

Anonymous said...

I agree, the difference is that he's not just a wacky nutty guy exercising his "free speech". Its not just talk.

I dont agree with torture either, but I'm also not a fan of complacency. I don't think anyone should be intellectualized out of seeing threat for what it is. This should be dealt with.

Anonymous said...

We should definitely torture the guy that tattoed goldenpalace.com across his forehead

Rhino-itall said...

I think he's suffered enough.

Rhino-itall said...

kind of like the chick with the algore tattoo on her ass!

Anonymous said...

Now Rhino if you keep bringing our dirty private conversations into the blog zone, I'll be forced to cut you off.

What happens in the burbs, stays in the burbs.

Rhino-itall said...

take it easy mom

Anonymous said...

You forgot OLD.

Anonymous said...

i think we all agree on this one.

and though i oppose the state committing acts of violence against its citizens, i could certainly sympathize with some vigilantes in this case.

Rhino-itall said...

take it easy OLD mom.

Oh and i agree that we shouldn't torture our citizens. Non citizens on the other hand are fair game in my book.

Miss Carnivorous said...

Hmm, are you pretending to be surprised about this to enhance the tension? Cuz I gotta tell you, when you are reading news stories, like, "Prostitute/university professor hangs self," on a daily basis, you have to ask yourself, what is our educational system coming to?

Rhino-itall said...

no i'm not surprised and in fact i am a regular reader of professor adams. I just figured i would give this story a little coverage because it's on the extreme end of the spectrum of liberal behavior.

gary said...

Torturing noncitizens is also illegal. The UN Convention on Torture applies to "all persons."

I know you're not big on the UN but we are a signatory to the Convention and so it is the supreme law of the land, per the U.S. Constitution.

Rhino-itall said...

Yes gary i am well aware. Which is why we DON'T torture them. We should, but we don't.

gary said...

We shouldn't but we do.

Mookie McFly said...

I thought it was okay to kill traitors...we don't have to torture them, just kill them.

gary said...

It is legal to kill them, after a fair trial.

Anonymous said...

I just figured i would give this story a little coverage because it's on the extreme end of the spectrum of liberal behavior.

NO, NO, NO!

Now y'all know I'm no liberal, but I have to point out that this guy isn't either.

It's one of those not all rectangles are squares things.

Some liberals may take positions that you regard as treasonous or anti-American, but that doesn't meant that every traitor is a liberal.

He's an islamofascist. He's a jihadist. He doesn't want women to vote Democrat--he probably doesn't want them to vote at all.

He wants to DESTROY our country and institute a theocracy based on Islam.

You'd be hard pressed to find a single liberal who believes that.

Except Lily, maybe.

Mookie McFly said...

Poor Lily...

Anonymous said...

Excuse me?

You've lost your damn mind.

I have never said one thing in support of anything having to do with terror or jihadists.

Miss Carnivorous said...

Gary the UN, or the "league of nations, gave Isreal to the Jews too. But the left does not accept that mandate. You guys love to cherry pick UN crap. I for one think that if the UN says something is a good idea we should do the opposite, oh wait we already do!

Anonymous said...

lily--i hope you know i was joking.

gary said...

Well, Miss C I was talking about the UN Convention on Torture, a treaty that we have to legally abide by, because we signed it.

gary said...

Well, Miss C I was talking about the UN Convention on Torture, a treaty that we have to legally abide by, because we signed it.