Saturday, December 16, 2006

Snoop Goddy God

As much of a blabber mouth that I am, I try to be as vague as possible when describing my personal life. If it wasnt for all those four a.m. tulla induced posts I might even be inclined to downplay my drunkenness, although truth be told...I wear it as badge of honor as it is the only thing I share in common with some of the literary greats.

I say this because I am about to admit something that will surprise and probably turn off our one or two conservative readers and confuse the hell out of the liberals.

I do not believe in GOD.

I went to Catholic School and was raised in a religious household. Ive always been a very spiritual person and even considered (briefly) Seminary when presented with a scholarship, but the abstinence and the whole "not believing in God" thing kind of got in the way. There was not some great wound inflicted upon me that led me to this belief or lack thereof if you will. I never felt smited or slighted, I just never believed. It was just my gut feeling, and I trust my gut (as it is not a gut to be trifled with)

I can remember once during class when learning about heaven I asked the teacher if I would be able to meet Benjamin Franklin. I was reprimanded for missing the point, which is that the purpose of heaven is to meet God. My response that Ben would be more interesting did not fare thee well. My rebuttal that if we are in fact made in God's eyes, then perhaps God is made in ours scored slightly better but with a stern warning that I was dangerously close to implying that I worshipped false gods, in this case the founding fathers. My teacher was right, I was always a borderline paganisitic heathen (Im irish, its in my blood) In full disclosure four years later at graduation I received two awards coughbraggardcough for excellence in specific subjects, religious studies being one of them.

I do believe that God and Religion are extremely important, if that makes me a hypocrite so be it, and yes I think there is an attack agenda against the both of them that I fear will eventually lead to the demise of this very great country of ours.

"If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under." - Ronald Reagan

You know those people that say they believe in God, but not organized religion...well Im the opposite. For all the talk of the evils of religion, in my opinion the good have far outweighed the bad, and there is not a doubt in my mind that amongst other things the declining influence of the church in our country has led to some of the moral decay we are witnessing today. More pragmatically speaking..... in my opinion it has contributed to lower test scores in schools, higher crime rates, and higher teenage pregnancy and abortion rates to name just a few as liberal social programs have replaced the church as the dominant influence in poorer neighborhoods.

Societies need structure and the church has always been able to fill in the gaps left by the federal and state governments or even acted as a replacement in the event of an absence of a nuclear or extended family. Theyve done pretty gosh dang good in that regard. For every abuse example you hear, Ill tell you thousands about women's shelters, hospitals, food drives, support groups, blood drives, pancake breakfasts (I like pancakes), humanitarian aid too many to mention etcetera etc.

Or sometimes people just need someone to hold them tight and promise them that everything will be alright. If that someone happens to be a faith-based deity, who am I to argue. Whatever gets you through the day I say.

God and Religion has always been a key component of our nation's history contrary to what the secularists would have you believe. Of which I would like to add, that by my definition the secularists themselves are a "religion" and are hell bent on shoving their belief system down everybody else's throat at the same time they accuse Christians of doing the same.

The reason I bring this up now is that I plan to become more active on this blog in the defense of God. Speaking of which... the grace scene in Talladega Nights about the baby Jesus is frickin hysterical...walk dont run to rent it. I realize it is rather trendy right now at Christmas time on both sides to tackle this issue, but I feel that my unorthodox position may be able to bring a unique perspective on the subject (how do you catch a special squirrel? Unique up on him) as I can not be easily dismissed as a wacko right wing* evangelical nor accused of being a lunatic left fringe atheist ACLU card carrier. This will be the dogma according to Donkey, or Donkma if you will.

On that note, I have nothing for you now... but I will share (and hopefully recommend at a later date upon completion) with you a book that I just bought (if you know me personally stop reading now as this is probably your Christmas gift) about the history and influence of God in the founding of The United States of America. Ive read a few pages and it looks like it'll turn out to be a good discussion provoking read.

Makes a great Christmas gift!











New from Newt!**
Rediscovering God in America: Reflections on the role of faith in our nation's history...and future.

*ok maybe Im right wing, but Im certainly no evanger...you get the point.
**If you buy this book through our link no compensation will change hands between Amazon , Speaker Gingrich and The Aurora. Were not in this for the money, just the chicks

10 comments:

anita said...

I think that people need to be reminded (over and over, and then OVER and OVER again) that the Founding Fathers were neither "Christians" in the way we understand Christians to be today (read: evanglicals, southern baptists, assemblies of god, etc.), nor were they secular humanists, but they were (in general) Diests:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism

And Donkeyhue, I have to admit I'm slightly disappointed to learn that you don't believe in god. Not sure what the nature of that disappointment is, but, as you say, so be it. But my question to you is, would you go so far as to call yourself an atheist?

Just my personal opinion, and I mean absolutely no offense to Sir AC/DC Donsky (as he's clearly given this, and a lot of other things, much more, and far more disciplined, thought, but I tend to feel that saying "there is no god" is the easy way out. Perhaps this "god" or "entity" or whatever is not personal, or particuarly lbenevolent, but my gut tells me there is (excuse the "AA speak") a "higher power" of sorts. That's about as far as I'll take it here because my brain is too small to both encompass it and to verbalize it effectively (another easy way out, perhaps).

Oh, and I'm also sorry you're not a 'believer' because I was kind of thinkin' of giving you my virgin mary statue. A Christmas (or holiday) gift, you know, for being the Master of Ceremonies at this rudely raucous gathering known as The Aurora. NOW I have to figure out what to do with it without being totally blasphemous !! ;)

Rhino-itall said...

i believe in God.

Anonymous said...

Anita if you couldnt tell from the post I am a strong advocate for deism and religion. I just personally do not subscribe to a mono-theistic belief system, however I do believe in the supernatural so I wouldnt exactly consider myself an atheist no more than I would an agnostic or any label for that matter. As Ferris Bueller once said "I dont believe in Beatles, I only believe in me"

I am in no position to question the validity of "God". In my opinion its unproveable either way, so I go with my gut. I am however fully prepared to be wrong, and in that unlikely event, I have been hell bent on gunning for an air-conditioned corner office downstairs.

I appreciate the offer of the viriginal sacrifice at the altar of The Aurora, and I think I can safely speak for all Aurorans on this one...we much prefer sluts. So um yeah if you know any...

Regarding the Founding Fathers, I dont interpret what the FF's meant or intended, the facts are pretty clear based on their words and actions. Now the secularists try and cherry pick individual items to make their point without looking at the big picture, which is the undeniable impact and influence of God and Religion in the founding of this country.

Lets hop in the time machine and fast forward 200 yrs. You could make the case that in 2006 all evangelicals were meth head homosexuals based on the actions of Haggard or that the Catholic Church was a dogma of nothing more than homosexual pedarasty. Both would be gross misinterpretations of the truth, and that is what secualrists do to make their argument and I intend to expose them.

EE-Aw!!!

Anonymous said...

"secularists themselves are a "religion" and are hell bent on shoving their belief system down everybody else's throat at the same time they accuse Christians of doing the same."

I dont see that at all.

And I think that part of the point with the whole god.policy thing is that it doesnt matter who believes in god. Thats your business.

I dont really care either way if you believe. It shouldnt impact your evaluation of policy or law.

I also dont know why this would confuse liberals.

You dont know if I am an atheist either, dont think it matters to any of you. Only one person at TBR has really asked.

Donkey I guess Im saying that your belief in god should not really influence what you think is good for society.

gary said...

I believe in God but not religion.

Anonymous said...

I was obviously being facetious, its difficult to convey air quotes online.

..and you are wrong. Everything about me should influence what I think is good for society policies and laws. Just because I am not a monotheist does not mean I believe there is no place for God in society.

(because liberals are stupid)

anita said...

"I guess Im saying that your belief in god should not really influence what you think is good for society."

If 'god' or one or another type of, say, spiritual system, informs one's moral and ethical standards and beliefs, then I think it must, almost of necessity, influence what one thinks is good for oneself and society. I think they go hand in hand.

It's when 'religion' or, more particuarly, 'organized religion' begins establishing the moral and ethical standards for ME AND SOCIETY, that's when things go nutty.

Anonymous said...

anita, to come to the conclusion that there is no god is not "taking the easy way out"--in fact, it's a decision that often alienates a person from his family and friends, and invites ostracism and persecution in the workplace.

and this is precisely why there are so few outspoken atheists (there are WAY more of us than you think).

despite what radical christians would have you believe, atheists and other secularists are not "on the offensive" or waging a "war on christmas." in fact, it's quite the opposite--we're defending the status quo against those who seek to strengthen the position of the christian god in the public square.

and donkey, if you really believe that organized religion has done the world more good than harm, i must assume you're in favor of (1) genocide and ethnic cleansing, (2) the oppression of women, (3) slavery and indentured servitude, (4) denying education to the masses, and a host of other causes consistently advocated by organized religions!

no one in his right mind would claim that organized religion has been a positive force in human history!

in fact, progress has occurred *DESPITE* organized religion, not because of it.

Anonymous said...

Whoever said I was in my right mind?

Donsky all those things are true, but the same could be said about "politics" and "commerce" or in more general terms mankind. For you to imply without organized religion those things would not have existed exposes your anti-religion bias.

Anonymous said...

there you go again, putting words in my mouth.

i never said that genocide, slavery, etc. would never have existed without religion!!!

i said that religion has continually perpetuated them.

and that's the double truth, ruth.