Once again liberals show their true racist colors by being the big Honky Hero and coming to the defense of the poor helpless African-Democrat-Americans. The democrat party is the party of discrimination, the party of racist rhetoric, the party of intolerance. If thats not the case then why pray tell is every Black conservative villified? Dems are for the advancement of colored people if and only if they vote democrat, and that seems to be more of a self-interest for party preservation to me than any real concern for the rights of minorities.
Ive lived in a country where I was the minority, I was the guy people crossed the street to avoid, that made scared women clutch their purse on the subway and Ill tell ya this much, I didnt like em but I almost respected the people that called me a donkey to my face (then I had to stab them of course) than those that would blow smoke up me arse and tell dirty paddy jokes behind my back.
EE-Aw!!!
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Dont we clutch our purses anyway, Donkeyhue?
Cause you're a damned thief?
I dont believe in heaven or hell
Me either, but this latte I'm drinking is a good approximation.
Damn but this is a quality beverage.
OK I haven't been here in awhile and had to get caught up. But I have a question- Rhino claimed that abortion leads to more pressure for unprotected sex and cited as an example how he never went without protection when he was dating a Catholic girl because he knew she would never have an abortion.
So if she "can't" because she is so Christian, why is she having sex with Rhino in the first place? And weren't girls getting pregnant even when abortion was illegal?
With your logic, men just keep it in their pants or become suddenly diligent. OR if abortion is an option they lose their ability to care about women? About unwanted pregnancy? So a woman that would get an abortion would have prompted Rhino to...what? Be indifferent about the consequences for her? Thats fucking wacked. No- an abortion is no picnic but clearly its not bad enough when held up to scoring bareback.
"Pick and choose" a la cart religion is hypocrisy, and if a liberal had said something like that Rhino would have stampeded.
No lily, you're wrong i wouldn't have stampeded, as i said it was in my youth.
When i was younger, i had different attitudes about a lot of things. when you're young you don't always consider everything, you make a lot of bad decisions, and nobody's perfect, not even me.
(i know you thought i was and i'm sorry that i let you down.)
Anyway, i'm a conservative convert, like most conservatives i was much more liberal as a young man. I still believe in the old saying
:if you're not a liberal at 20 you have no heart, if you're still a liberal at 40 you have no brain:
I don't have to wait until i'm 40, i'm ahead of the curve.
There may be some principled black conservatives but Ken Blackwell is corrupt and unprincipled. It has nothing to do with race--so is Katherine Harris.
Lily, the numbers are proof that i'm right. How many millions of abortions have been performed since 1972?
Do you really think there would be that many illegitimate children or do you think that people would be more careful?
And how about illegitimate children? when people think there's an out, they don't always take the necessary precautions, and sometimes one of the parents wants to keep it (usually the woman). So that # has sky rocketed as well since roe.
Bottom line, abortion is bad for society, and women in particular.
what about steele? why aren't the dems jumping on his bandwagon? In fact why is schumers staff illegally doing background searches on him?
The truth is that the dems are racists, they don't think minorities, especially blacks, can fend for themselves. they think minorities need the federal govt's help to get ahead.
Abortion is bad. Illegal abortion is worse.
I find it kind of interesting that abortion was brought up on a racism post, considering that some would theorize that abortion is the ultimate racist tool of liberals. The ol' time democrats used lynching as a means to decimate the black population in the south, todays dems just hand them the "constitutionally protected" rope.
I dont want to misunderstand and I am mildly intoxicated...but are you saying that liberals want black people to have abortions?
Dont the numbers suggest that white people have the abortions?
I agree with Gary Buell here. I dont like the idea of abortion but I dont like illegal abortion. I also know its not for me to say what others should do just because I wouldn't have one.
And yes- that cost me some good whoring time Rhino. And many a ride down Port.
And Rhino-I understand people change as they get older, I was just trying to understand your comment.
Sorry I selfishly got off topic, boys. I think the world revolves around what I want to talk about, you know. Spoiled brat liberals.
Thats exactly what I am saying.
more than 70 percent of abortion clinics in America are located in minority communities
"We do not want word to get out that we want to exterminate the Negro population"
Margaret Sanger
"Lothrop Stoddard was on the board of directors (of Margaret Sanger's Population Association of America) for years.... He had an interview with Adolf Hitler and was very impressed. His book, The Rising Tide of Color Against White World Supremacy, was written while he served on Sanger's board. Havelock Ellis, one of Sanger's extra-marital lovers, reviewed this..book favorably in The Birth Control Review".
"Planned Parenthood is the largest abortion provider in America. 78% of their clinics are in minority communities. Blacks make up 12% of the population, but 35% of the abortions in America. Are they being targeted? Isn't that genocide? We are the only minority in America that is on the decline in population. If the current trend continues, by 2038 the black vote will be insignificant. Did you know that the founder of Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger, was a devout racist who created the Negro Project designed to sterilize unknowing black women and others she deemed as undesirables of society? The founder of Planned Parenthood said, "Colored people are like human weeds and are to be exterminated." Is her vision being fulfilled today?" quoted from blackgenocide.org
You know that hurted. Just put the keyboard down Lily.
and a big welcome back to my favorite foil! I missed you lily;)
You know Rhino I appreciate your participation but I think I had it covered with my "because I said so.." rebuttal.
yeah but i really miss lily so i wanted to let her know that i still care.
where did you cut and paste those statistics from, rhino? the randall terry talking points bulletin?
blackgenocide.org and others.
does it matter?
yes, it does.
because these "statistics" on abortion are very misleading. what does not show up in the "offical" numbers are the abortions that are performed on women who are NOT poor: the women who do not need to go to clinics that receive public funding, such as planned parenthood, that are required to make regular reports to the federal government. A woman with private insurance can go to her physician and/or gynecologist and have an abortion (which in a very early stage abortion isn't even CALLED an abortion at all, it's simply a "procedure" ... a D&C) in either the doctor's office or the hospital and it will never show up in those "statistics" at all.
When you say abortion is a "bad deal" for women, put yourself in the place of some parent in a state where abortion is no longer "legal." You have a 16-year-old daugher who gets pregnant. She's terribly embarrassed and she frightened to death to tell. What does she do? She she borrows money from friends or somehow gets the couple hundreds dollars necessary and gets on a bus and goes to one of the many "abortion mills" like the ones they have on Park Avenue South here in the city. She has the procedure, but she also gets an infection because in a sense the procedure was almost a "back-room" job and she has all kinds of complications from that ...
I don't need to finish this. You know where I'm heading.
Anyway, which would you rather: that she had access to Plan B or a place like Planned Parenthood or you and your conservative mates who know nothing about what you are talking about had their way and abortion was made illegal?
I think, like many, many others, that abortion should be legal, rare, safe, and performed very very early.
Then let me ask you Anita, as someone that is pro-abortion. How do you propose we make it more rare? (I myself like my fetus mignon medium rare)
NARAL, PP, and their ilk continue to act that Roe v Wade is going to be overturned tommorow, which it wont, and if it were it still wouldnt make abortion illegal.
Those organizations have ceased to if they ever had have the best interests of women at heart. They like most orgs that have huge bankrolls with zero accountability have become corrupt from the money and the power they yield and have become the militant wing of the dem party.
Well, Rhino it took about 2 minutes to find the Margaret Sanger quote. Here it is in context:
It seems to me from my experience . . . in North Carolina, Georgia, Tennessee, and Texas, that while the colored Negroes have great respect for white doctors, they can get closer to their own members and more or less lay their cards on the table. . . . They do not do this with the white people, and if we can train the Negro doctor at the clinic, he can go among them with enthusiasm and with knowledge, which, I believe, will have far-reaching results. . . . His work, in my opinion, should be entirely with the Negro profession and the nurses, hospital, social workers, as well as the County's white doctors. His success will depend upon his personality and his training by us.
The minister's work is also important, and also he should be trained, perhaps by the Federation, as to our ideals and the goal that we hope to reach. We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs (Sanger, 1939, December).
So it appears that Sanger was deliberately misquoted, not by you I'm sure.
How is this out of context. They feared word would get out and needed to do some damage control. They used the same strategy back then as they do now, line the pockets of the preachers (Jackson , Sharpton come to mind)to do Whiteys dirty work for them.
Sanger was for a fact a known racist and vocal proponent of eugenics.
I don't doubt that some of her opinions from the 1930s might be out of keeping with the attitudes of today but I do not believe that she wanted to exterminate black people and it would take more than out of context or fabricated quotes to convince me. Whe worked with W.E.B. DuBois and was praised by Dr. King.
The quote about colored people being like human weeds is an outright fabrication.
Seems you are correct about the weeds comment being a fabrication, although not an outright one, the actual quote was...
“(It) makes possible the spread of scientific knowledge of the elements of sound breeding. It makes possible the creation of a new race; a new generation brought into this world consciously conceived. It makes possible the breeding out of human weeds-the defective and criminal classes-(and) the breeding in of the clean, strong and fit instruments to carry the torch of human destiny.”
These werent my quotes and Im trying to research them during commercial breaks in the Mets game (winning 5-0)but it seems no fabrications are necessary as this broad was a real quack, and referencing two commies that maybe dug crazy white chicks doies nothing to convince me either. Yeah thats right I called em commies. Now what!
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gary, the eugenics movement in this country PRE DATED the holocaust, and hitler. Sanger was part of that movement.
She was also an active member of the communist party and obviously a bigot and racist.
Anita, were we performing MILLIONS of these back room abortions every year before roe? I don't think so. How do we make it rare when you're telling me that the millions that we know about are only the poor people in the country?
come on, you're making the pro lifer's argument for them. If you think it should be early, then that means you think there is a time that there is a baby. when is that time? At least then i'm sure you think partial birth abortion should be illegal right? or at least we should have to go back to the ORIGINAL tri mester laws that were outlined in roe... right?
If not, then why should it be early?
I never said abortion should be illegal, you don't know where i stand on that, but i'll tell you this, partial birth abortion is MURDER and any woman and or doctor that has or performs such procedures should be prosecuted and face the death penalty for their crime.
Well?
You are may be correct Donkeyhue, Roe v. Wade may stand.
But if it does, it's only because most sane people are in agreement that abortion should be safe and legal. I'm speaking of general population, not the fringe right wing fanatics. Remember Dan Quayle? Dan Quayle who was "pro-life" and then when asked what he would do if his daughter got pregnant said he would in fact encourage her to have an abortion. That was a classic example of the hypocrisy of the right.
One way to keep abortion rare is to provide education to young people. Something the right does not want. Teens, and and even children, must have access to information about effective means of contraception. The right wing says, abstinance is the only thing to be taught. No. They need to to be told that abstinance is good, but when that fails, they must a condom, or get on the pill, or whatever. We all know teaching only abstinance is not going to work. By denying teenagers information about and access to birth control is only increasing the number of unwanted pregnancies and creating an environment for potentially unsafe, even deadly, abortions.
Churches, the Catholic church, in particular, need to step up to the plate, too. They need to tell their "faithful" --- young and old ---that birth control is not a sin.
Those are just two ways to keep abortions rare: Tell the right wing to stop lying to and misleading kids and teenagers and women.
Rhino, that is soooo typical of you "pro-lifers" ... when all else fails, bring up partial birth abortion. It's the classic red herring to change the subject.
I won't bite.
"Anita, were we performing MILLIONS of these back room abortions every year before roe? I don't think so."
Rhino ... were you there counting? How do you know?
The right wing says, abstinance is the only thing to be taught.
Thats such a load of crap and you know it. Dont let your ideology blind you on this. I know its easy to just blame everything on those crazy right wingers but the fact remains that abortion is advocated as birth control, as choice, as constitutional privilege, as whatever pretty bowed name you wanna a call it and its all a load of crap to keep NOW NARAL and PP relevent.
Libs control public education...why is it that the situation is getting worse and not better?
Im sorry that was out of character for a distinguished conservative such as myself.
I blame rock music.
Anita
No i wasn't there counting, but i know that there wasn't millions of women having abortions and dying from infections or whatever the picture is that you want to paint.
Also, YOU brought up the EARLY thing, not me. I'm asking why? If it's not a life, then why does it matter when it's killed?
If it is a life then when does it become a life in your opinion?
You don't have to answer me, just realize that this is where it has gone. If you could go back to 1972 and ask anti-lifers what they thought about stabbing children in the head as they're being born i bet they would be horrified, but now it's a complete freak out if we don't allow it on demand!
Stop blaming the church, that's the deal with religion, it doesn't change with the times like you think the constitution should. the bible is not a "living and breathing" document.
Besides, if you did the research i bet you would find that most of the abortions in this country aren't performed on regular church goers.
So that's my answer to how to make abortion more rare. encourage everyone to go to church.
sorry rhino, you brought up the "early" thing by vis a vis your post on Plan B. maybe in was inadvertent on your part, but there you go.
"if you did the research i bet you would find that most of the abortions in this country aren't performed on regular church goers."
i would bet the opposite.
how much?
a reasonable sum, but i don't trust your statistics, because you get them from places like "blackgenocide.org" or "letskillkillhippies.org" ... slightly partisan, non?
ok, so lets make it clear.
My bet is that most people getting abortions are not regular church goers.
Your bet is that most people getting abortions are regular church goers.
Name the wager, and find a non partisan stat for this and i'm in.
what is your definition of a "regular" church goer?
Someone that eats a lot of fiber?
i think it's self explanatory. someone who attends church regularly. as in most sundays, even during football season.
not people who only go to church on easter and christmans.
christmans? or did you mean christwomans? i'm confused.
or christwomyns
or christgrrrls
??
;)
how about girls named christinemas?
Most people are lazy scum and they fuck like rabbits. They do not care about the consequences. They will not benefit from education. They are of low cognitive ability and venal in nature. I hate abortion and indeed gave a baby up for adoption 2 years ago, after becoming unexpectedly pregnant at the age of 42. I did not care to be a single mother and raise a daughter in the ghetto. But I don't want these people of low cognitive ability to breed. Gawd help me I just don't. If that makes me sound like Hitler, so be it. I would love for nice young ladies of high intelligence and human capital to have their babies and give them to worthy families, but I have too many friends that have adopted children that have turned out to be big problems because of bad genetics and drug abuse. Those are the people clogging up our prison system. So I am torn between being a right wing anti-abortion type and a crazed Hitlerian/Mengele eugenicist. What to do, what to do?
I only go to church on Yom Kippur & during Ramadan...
How deceitful am I?
alan's liver, it's ok as long as you go to confession at temple...... i think?
very deceitful, alan's liver. very. particularly since your carapace was a buddhist.
for shame.
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