Well the previously unknown and Murtha is at it again, once again weve lost another politician's soul to the allure of of guest spots on weekend morning news and potential book deals. I sure would hate to have my tombstone read:
"Here lies a distinguished Veteran and Congressman that betrayed his country after a long and honorable career, at a time when she needed him most"
Well Murtha has found his notoriety by doing just that. I suppose the bright lights of CNN press conferences were just too much to resist. He is not anti-war, he is pro-terrorist.
Its one thing to oppose the Iraq War, its a whole other ball game to actually be rooting for an insurgent victory and the defeat of American troops, as Murtha is once again doing. Not only is he wrong, we can and are winning this war on the battlefield, but his defeatist attitude is cowardly and un-patriotic. Yeah thats right UNPATRIOTIC! Now before you hippies raise a patchouli stink, let me clarify... opposing the war does not make you unpatriotic, rooting for the bad guys does.
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Anyone who speaks out against a misguided strategy is a cnn-lights-loving-book-coveting egotist?
Well then that must make Coulter Queen MediaHo.
Yes it does, but Coulter cant shape policy so therefore is harmless. Murtha's actions and words on the other hand are dangerous to this country.
As I stated, he has gone from opposing the war to actually rooting for defeat, and that aint cool.
You really take his words as rooting for defeat? Not as a call to admit mistakes have been made and some changes in direction are in order? is it patriotic to ignore the possibility that sometimes even great leaders have changed and tweaked their strategy as things evolve.
Especially on Sunday, I took his remarks that way.
Isn't it dangerous to the troops to force them to continue putting their lives on the line, for a stubborn unwillingness to adapt and get it together in iraq?
Anytime somebody wants to minimize killing it is viewed as pro-terrorist.
The new operation in Afghanistan outside Kandahar is an appropriate response where fighting terror is concerned. You think that the current state of things in Iraq refelct sound leaderhip?
"We can't win this militarily"
His words. Not mine
Not sure if he knows our history, but weve got a pretty darn good winning percentage. Were kind of a big deal.
He offers...
No strategy tweaking
No direction changing
No adapting suggestions
Just good ol fashioned liberal pusillanimous defeatism.
The Dems are offering up no suggestions, just retreat and withdrawal, yet when it comes to a vote on said tactic they disapear like a bottle of scotch in Hyannis, as its a political loser.
Nice backbone your party leaders got there.
Once again, feel free to oppose the war, but damn you if you root against my Country, as you will feel my wrath.
One can't "win" against an insurgency. For every Iraqi we kill, tweo more join. It's illogical madness. Why didnt the British win against us? These are people who think they are patriots. Only a fraction of them are outside terrorist types. Murtha understands this. Unfortunatly the people in charge here do not.
The Brits didnt beat us because we are a nation as whoop ass can deliverers, my point exactly.
Forgive my laziness in not citing the thousands of examples of insurgencies being crushed throughout history...Ill just leave it at...
Youre wrong!
Murtha understands one thing...his ego, and the only way to feed it is to continue to support our enemies. He is NOT anti-war, he is anti-American. Why are we not talking about Harold Ford of Tenn, for example,who is against this war, but not irrationally like Murtha...were talking about Murtha, because the media eats up his blame America first support the terrorists bullcrap.
I know plenty of anti-war people, some have valid points. Calling our troops murderous thugs that cant win isnt one of them.
You're wrong. Because you are buying into the idea that selling out our soldiers is patriotic! Holding their lives in high regard is patriotic. Thats not what we are doing when we can't even offer up a plan. You always ask for the Democrats to give a plan. The REPUBLICANS are being paid by US to run America and they are the majority. The damned President should have the plan! it serves nobody to say "well the Dems have no plan either so nah-nah". Thats a crock of shit. Your Repuglicans have no plan. And they should rebate their salaries as the useless pigs they are.
When did Murtha call them murderous thugs?
let me play devil's advocate for a minute.
It just seems that more lives are being lost and if the goal is to really liberate the iraqis- why should our soldiers continue to get blown up and shit? years later, they should fight for their own liberation if they want it as badly as we claim! If the insurgency is such a minority, let the Iraqis learn to deal with their own. And bring our folks home!
If the goal is to remain there as a Middle Eastern base of operations for strategic purposes- well, build your bases and get our soldiers off the highways.
if the goal is to decrease terrorism, the plan is not working toward that goal and needs to be changed. Fostering resentment against us as "occupiers" only helps them recruit more. We cannot smoke them all out of their caves! indeed, we cannot even smoke out Bin Laden.
It is because I care about the troops that I say treat them with the worth and dignity they deserve. We treat vets like shit, shortchange them on equipment and training, cut their benefits, expose them to things- then say "go out and get blown up for the cause- um, pick one!". Thats respect?
I dont know how to break this to you hippies, but its what soldiers do. They fight wars, whether or not you agree with it or not. Im not going to be so pompous to claim to know their intentions when they sign up, but this is clear...they know that there is a chance they will see combat.
The President does have a plan...its called winning, and dont give me this exit strategy or plan to win the peace bullshit. Its the same plan as in every war weve ever fought...its called victory. Your side wants to lose so you dont agree with it, but I can assure you, victory is the preferrable result.
if the goal is to decrease terrorism, the plan is not working
Well actually it is. Since we took the fight to them theyve been unable to bring it to us. Yet another cold hard fact your politics have blinded you to.
Do we really need to play the devils advocate with Murtha? You strike me as someone that keeps up with current events and politics in general, you know what hes said and if you could put politics aside for a moment you would know he is wrong.
Respect???
"there is no reason, Bob, that young American soldiers need to be going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children, you know, women (kerry)
"We can't win this militarily" or
"Marines over-reacted... and killed innocent civilians in cold blood" (murtha)
"The U.S. military presence has become part of the problem, not part of the solution," (kennedy)
Is that respect? I hope for your sake you dont think so, but Im sure you will find a way rationalize how you are the ones that "care" and your party "feels their pain". Bullshit.
Now you know what our plan is...victory.
Whats yours again?
Victory! Good plan donkey
beats the hell out of quitting and asking the enemy to please be nice.
Murtha is a disgrace. Who ever heard of him before he first made his outlandish statements? But now everyone knows who he is! Thats his motivation.
Lefty you should really think about things before you start writing, because i'm really starting to think you're just plain stupid.
lily, get a hold of yourself. As donkey said this is what soldiers do, they fight. Sometimes they die which is tragic but necessary. It's obvious that you don't have the stomach for war, and you're not alone, most of the left side of t he aisle is with you. Thats why i thank god that the left side is the minority, and that al gore is making idiotic nonsensical movies instead of policy.
Winning against an insurgency that is:
A. Financed by Iran and other deep sources.
B. Has nearly unlimited supply's of explosives thanks to our inability to secure Iraqi ammo dumps.
C. Unlike historical insurgencies these guys have cell phones and other tech that they use well.
D. Many "foot soldiers" have the added element of religious fervor that makes them more willing to die for what they see as a holy cause.
What are we doing that will make them stop? nothing.. we are a huge recruiting tool for the terrorist and the insurgents. We kill one, two more step forward to avenge him. What logic are we using here. Do you really buy the shit logic that Bush uses? "we're fighting them there so we don't have to fight them here. I spent many years as a combat military policeman. All we trained for was fighting insurgents. In none of the doctrine we tried to maintain was there talk of winning against an insurgency. It just isnt done..the goal was simply to make roads passable, and keep overt actions in check. Please... And next time you resort to name calling I'll just avoid the Aurora all together.
A cop huh? That explains alot. Take the skirt off Nancy. We appreciate you coming by, but if stupid offends you, maybe this isnt the place for you, especially considering that it was the 5'2" bald headed spick that said it.
Just wait til you get a load of my drunken posts from my mobile on the cab ride home from The Whiskey Ward.
Oh yeah one more thing...
Youre stupid!
The GOP will revoke my card for saying this, but didnt Saddam have the insurgents under control? Now all we have to do is start chopping off bodily extremities like he did and maybe execute the soccer team, for that matter all soccer players to be on the safe side.
Death to the World Cup
Long live the female Brazillian fans
Oh no lefty you're going to leave? but what will we do without your incredible insight and comments comparing iraqi terrorists to America's founding fathers and freedom fighters????
The british couldn't defeat us because we were right! because we were fighting for liberty, not tyranny!
STUPID
i'm 5'11" by the way, but i am a bald headed spic.
donkey is a fat mic, but at least he's an ugly drunk so that kind of evens it out.
For the last time you mexican midget...
Im big boned damnit!!!
And you will respect my authoritie
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