I know how much you hippies out there like to compare Iraq to Vietnam, if for no other reason than you are secretly (and not so secretly) rooting for the same shameful retreat despite our military dominance. This is a free country and you are free to root against your country if you so choose, but do me a favor and get your facts straight. Vietnam was your golden knight from camelot's war not President Nixon's.
Thats right, the slippery slope that was the United States involvment in Vietnam was set in motion by the Kennedy White House's support of the assassination of popular Vietnamese President Ngo Dinh Diem (and his brother---sound familiar?) leading to the destabilization of South Vietnam and the escalation of the US Military involvement. To sum it up Kennedy started it, Nixon ended it.
I realize you have as much an aversion to facts as you do to showers, but history is not your stink that you can mask with the lying aroma of patchouli. Peace.
Listen how heartbroke JFK is over the assassination that he casually interjects the discussion with baby talk about horses and summer sailing on the Cape. (here)
9 comments:
First, American involvemnent in Vietnam predates Kennedy. Nixon, it has been reported, wanted to use nuclear weapons to save the French from defeat. The United States sabotaged the Geneva Accords before Kennedy took office.
Second, I do not believe Kennedy would have introduced combat troops in Vietnam-which may have been one reason behind his assassination. Read John Newman's "JFK and Vietnam."
Nixon wanted a "decent interval" between the withdrawal of American troops and a North Vietnamese victory. He got it--at a cost of thousands of American and Vietnamese lives.
You are the one who should read a little history.
Gary, JFK was lousy with his foreign policy ( I take it you think it was only a "polic action" while Kennedy was president?) and he was as corrupt as they come with dead people and pets voting for him (Gore & Kerry could have used a Dem like him in the last election)...Are you going to blame someone else for the Bay of Pigs & his many failed attempts to assasinate Castro? When Lloyd (looks like he came out of a bottle of prune juice) Benston said to Dan Quayle, "that he was no John F. Kennedy Jr.", I thought, "thank God". The Kennedy's are rotten to the core and would do anything evil and underhanded to get what they wanted. It confuses me to no end how these dirty rich bastard are some sort of heroes. They took their father's dirty business habits into the political arena and people continue to celebrate them?
I realize that we had involvement in SE Asia prior to JFK, but you are wrong that we did not have combat troops during his admin. My point was that his White House sanctioned the coup that resulted in the assassination of President Diem resulting in the destabilization of the south necessitating the escalation of troops under LBJ.
Maybe its you who should read my posts (more insightful than any tinfoil hat books you read) before you jump the gun.
Last time I checked Nixon was President after JFK, and I doubt IKE would defer military decisions to his VP, so what he wanted to do prior to being in President is unimportant. I didnt read it in a book but Im pretty sure we didnt nuke 'Nam
Vietnam was Kennedys War..end of story
At the time of the kennedy assassination, we already had approx. 15000 "advisors" in vietnam, plus we were supplying them with weapons etc.
If JFK had had any balls, he would have committed fully, or pulled out completely.
The Geneva accords were just a giveaway to the commies, and thats why IKE didn't go for it.
Vietnam was indeed Kennedy's war. And after him it was Johnson's war and then Nixon's war.Iraq is Bush's war.
The Bay of Pigs was a mistake on Kennedy's part. He should never have listened to the CIA.
Whatever his mistakes, I believe this country (and Vietnam) would have been better off if he had lived.But some in the CIA apparently felt differently.
Let me say that I think people in the CIA were involved in the assassination. You want names? Here are three: David Atlee Phillips, E. Howard Hunt, Frank Sturgis.
I can second that. Pat Kennedy is a former client that I had to fire (and lose a decent amount of business) strictly because of his jackassery.
Come off it...we all know it was Roger McDowell on the gravelly road...oh wait, I think I am thinking of something else.
Benjamin asks if I have evidence. Sure, here's one piece of it--an email I received from the nephew of CIA agent David Atlee Phillips:
http://coverthistory.blogspot.com/2005_06_01_coverthistory_archive.html
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