Ok, you got a good U.S. lawyer we are under intense pressure from the world community and even from the traitors in our own country. We can't prove that you're a threat to us, so we're going to send you home. I'm sure you'll be glad to get away from the torturous conditions of "3 hots and a cot" pluse medical care of course your prayer mat. I'm sure you'll be glad to get back to your own little paradise that you call home. So you're free to go:
"You've been saying 'terrorists, terrorists.' If we return, whether we did something or not, there's no such things as human rights. We will be killed immediately," he said. "You know this very well."
But mr. guantanamo prisoner, you're from Syria, they sit on the Human Rights Commission at the great United Nations. Surely they will welcome you back with open arms.
"I can't go back to my country. I have been threatened to be killed by many people,"
Well lets ask the traitors, I mean what's the difference? They say you're being tortured here at Gitmo anyway?
"This policy of handing over prisoners to countries that the U.S. challenges on their human rights abuses is a sham and it opens the United States to charges of hypocrisy around the world," said Rep. Edward Markey, a Massachusetts Democrat who has sought passage of a bill that would ban the U.S. from sending prisoners to other countries to face torture.
Hmmmm....... this is an interesting development. Read the story here.
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Im sure Yale would welcome them, if not they can choose Brown as their safety school
Well, obviously rhino-itall you are a traitor to this country and all it stands for and should be sent off to Guantanamo.
Yes but afterwards they cannot send him back to Long Island or the government of that island may torture him?!? If they didn't do anything wrong, why were they taken in the first place...and if they didn't do anything wrong then why are they scared to go back to their country of origin. I think this is proof enough that these prisoners are some bad mama jammers...
First of all, as long as you send them to the south shore you should be ok. Well, ok let's say past the SOB. But before exit 70,say- Moriches.
Here's why you're full of shit, rhino, honey. Are you suggesting these terrible murderous thugs called these people up at Gitmo and said "Hey, your ass is grass come homecoming?" These *scary* barbaric thugs sent them a damned Western Union? TELEGRAM!!! Look, magazines and death threats. OH! And cigarettes from Aunt Beatrice! The US government spies on its own people, but doesn't intercept calls/mail from these supposedly identifiable thugs? Come on, thats just silly.
Now they might be scared but chances are they would have been scared at home too. They have reason to be scared regardless.Warzones don't lend themselves to serenity. But here's the error of your ways: you blame three meals and comfort for the fact that a person would perhaps in isolated cases want to stay to avoid death? You are saying that it is impossible for a guy to choose a rat hole or a torture chamber to certain death? You conclude that soft conditions are the reason they want to stay, not because they are safe? Alive? How does this at all refute whether or not the US tortures? Its possible we torture a few. Its possible they prefer torture to certain death. Its still possible that we torture by proxy in other nations. Its possible we torture and take pictures of it. Where your reasoning falls apart Rhino is with premise-conclusion.
You are afraid of being killed in riotous conflict, therefore, it must be because Gitmo is four stars???
And gadfly: you are a smart fly. I've seen that. Can you not name ONE example where an innocent person was held wrongfully under any circumstances? You can only think of examples where every single person EVER rounded up and detained were *of course* guilty? Guilt in your justice sense comes by virtue of being detained, not by the commission of an act?
Accusation alone fills the burden of proof for you? Your position hinges on the idea that if a person is at Gitmo they MUST be guilty? Thats not a very high standard and despite my angst for your little whiskey clotch- I don't think thats a standard befitting an intelligent fly. I think you know better, but the truth doesn't sound as funny.
I'll go with that. That its funnier to mock the detainees and talk about serving them filet mignon versus the truth as to whether or not we have the moral democracy loving fiber we claim to have.
Lily all that stuff is possible. But theres no facts to prove any torture, or any coerced statements or propoganda. Unless you mean the newsweek propoganda about flushing the koran that turned out to be bullshit. You know what else is possible? it's possible that these people are terrorists, it's possible that they don't want to go home because they're not being tortured, it's possible that the traitor lawyers that work for these terrorists are spys and they're giving info to the enemy.....oh no that's right, that's not just possible that's fact. I like facts lily. I know you're not really fond of them, but thats why you have your blog. everything is possible at the noose, but i like facts lily. so maybe it's you who's full of shit, i mean anythings possible right? oh and i grew up about 5 minutes from moriches.....and i don't mind going home.
I'm sorry you feel that way about my grasp of facts, rhino. But what you wrote were not facts. You just cannot help but view things in black and white. Everyone in a little box: traitor, terrorist, etc. All media is liberal. All liberals are idiots. All muslims are terrorists. Lily is an idiot, never uses facts. So be it. I'm not about righteousness, I'm about exploring the issue. Unlike some people I do not claim to know it all. If you know everything, why say you are interested in the other side? For what, sport?
People can be judged by their race, where they live, and its perfectly ok to make assumptions on your blog. But these are not called facts. These are extended forms of intellectual shorthand aimed at saving you the time and trouble to really look at the merits of what people say. What, its ok to lump all muslims together but not ok to point out the ridiculous snobbery of Long Island? If you lived where you say you should know exactly what dynamic I am talking about and why I said that. I grew up there too, Rhino.
lily i never called you an idiot. I just said it's possible that you're full of shit. I didn't say i know it all..... oh yeah i did, but that's only because i do.
I didn't say ALL media is liberal, i didn't say there was no snobbery on long island, i didn't say all muslims are terrorists, in fact i didn't say most of these things, and i'm not trying to avoid anything. Don't put words in my mouth and don't assume you know my motivations just because you grew up near me. Wait, You grew up near me? Well then you can't be all bad.
I haven't had a good filet mignon in years...Maybe I should buy an airline ticket, wear my dirtiest stinkiest sneakers and...I know, I know, Lily. Justice is blind and sometimes the innocent get smacked upside the dome while justice points out the guilty...and you are right, it isn't funny. In particular circumstances/consequences of war rarely ever are; especially when erring on the side of caution to protect a nation.
Oh, and I had the displeasure of driving through LI last night to attend a wake...let's just say the wake was more enjoyable than driving through Long Island. How do people live there? How many sardines can you fit in the can?
I don't live there anymore. But my family does. I can't afford to live where they live. Unless one dies and I get their house. Not likely. But yeah, I lived most of my life there and am there pretty often. I don't miss it. I think they are all crazy to stay there, but families do that. They would rather die than move.
Look rhino, you can think whatever you want about my 'facts'. Unlike you, I am intellectually humble as hell and can easily admit that I don't know everything. I'm ok with that. I can be full of shit, thats fine. Just be glad you don't have to associate with me for real!
Shouldn't it be Rhiknow-itall...? It took me a while to even see what he was talking about but then again I'm not the scholar that he is...hmmm?
lily i'm there all the time too. i actually live on the island again. just recently moved back with my mom.......... no just kidding, but lily real life is my preferred way to deal with people. donkey warlike and i asked you out already, but you dissed us. probably had to wash your hair,... oh wait hippies don't wash their hair.
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