"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money."
—Margaret Thatcher
With a projected $1.8 trillion deficit for 2009, several trillions more in deficits projected over the next decade, and with both Medicare and Social Security entitlement spending about to ratchet up several notches over the next 15 years as Baby Boomers become eligible for both, we are rapidly running out of other people's money. These deficits are simply not sustainable. They are either going to result in unprecedented new taxes and inflation, or they will bankrupt us.
Whole Foods CEO.................Who Knew?
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I think that this guy has some good ideas. Not so sure about some of them, like the voluntary personal contributions on tax forms. Whole Foods may have a good health insurance program but many companies are looking for ways to dump health insurance.
Last week on Bill Maher everyone agreed that France has the best health care program in the world. Even the conservative. Who knew? Apparently they have a hybrid program, not single-payer. Sounds like what Obama is trying to put together.
I agree about the deficits. I've always considered Republicans the big deficit party (Reagan, Bush, Bush 2) and Democrats the party of fiscal responsibility (Clinton). Now we have the biggest deficits. It sucks. I still think that the stimulus package was necessary and may have saved capitalism but we've got to get the deficits down ASAP. From what I've read of recent economic studies government spending has created jobs and the Bush tax cuts did not. So let's repeal the Bush tax cuts, that will help on the deficit.
You will probably say tht repealing the tax cuts will lower revenue (supply-side economics) but that isn't true.
really everyone on bill maher agreed? even the token conservative? I'm sure they're all experts...well then it must be true...stupid.
wrong again on the deficits by the way. CONGRESS spends the money. not the president. You're right about George W but we've been saying that here for years. He never vetoed any spending bills by the wayward republican congress and that's ultimately why they lost it. Clinton was a spender just like the rest of them but the republican takeover in 94 shut him down and they came in mostly on the promise of balancing the budget which Clinton took credit for. (ok by me.he stayed out of the way which is just as good)
so you're saying that higher taxes won't result in lower revenue? that's good because if you hadn't said it i would have been looking at historical data to figure that out and since i've looked at it a bunch of times and the actual facts show that higher taxes result in lower revenue i probably would have believed that. So thanks for clearing that up for me.....stupid.
Finally, Obama hasn't written any bills. He hasn't proposed any legislation and he hasn't pushed anything of his own. He does however believe that a single payer system is the best option and you can THINK anything you want but i you're just making shit up in your head that you want to believe because they guy has said repeatedly that he believes the system that has FAILED EVERYWHERE IT'S EVER BEEN TRIED is his personal preference.....stupid.
Now be gone. I don't feel like dealing with any more stupidity today. It's a beautiful day here in NY and i'm going to jump in my pool.
Calling someone stupid seems to be your idea of intelligent discourse. You don't think there have been times where I have thought "That Rhino sure is stupid?" I mean you think that you're smarter than the National Academy of Science. You don't even accept the theory of evolution. And now you cling to discredited supply-side economic theories. Stupid.
I don't THINK i'm smarter than the national academy of science. I KNOW i am.
It's just a political institution. You're just not smart enough to realize it.
evolution? No proof which means it's not science.
supply-side discredited? You see this is why i say you're stupid. It's not just because you don't know shit, lots of really intelligent people don't know shit but they're smart enough to not broadcast it to me repeatedly.
Clearly you do not even understand what science is.
By the way, if you are open to educating yourself about science, evolution, and the NAS download the free 88-page report here:
http://www.nap.edu/catalog/11876.html
It's no surprise to me that the CEO of Whole Foods is going to represent the interests of his clientele -- upper-middle class and wealthy urbanites for whom shopping for food is either below them or, if they do shop for food, they insist on thinking they are "paying for the best" (which they are positively NOT, by the way).
Whole Foods massively overcharges for their product, wastes massive amounts of paper products via their extremely ineffienct ways of packaging their deliveries (one orange in a large box?? ... i could go on).
And in terms of nutrition and the environment and supporting local economies, people would do much better bringing their own shopping satchels to their local farmers markets and local groceries and staying as far away as possible from utterly wasteful spending at Whole Foods.
i don't think he's representing his clientele. according to the stories i've read, and the general impression i've always had of whole foods it's a very liberal clientele.
however, what i would like to know from you anita is not how it's a crummy supermarket, i don't do any food shopping so i don't give a shit either way, but i would be interested in hearing your thoughts on the actual suggestions he's made.
You think any of his ideas have merit? which ones? none of them? I mean who gives a shit if you can bring a bag to the market with you? what does that have to do with health care?
the proposal that Obama is pushing it a fast track to a single payer system. A system that has failed everywhere in the world. personally i don't think we should go with a proven loser and welcome alternative ideas to the "problem" that you seem to think exists.
so again, leaving the emotion out of it and your theory of why he's proposing these things, do you believe any of his ideas have merit?
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