So i was listening to Mark Levin (the great one) this evening. His opening monologue was on Obama's socialized medicine push. He made the point that Obama has already decided to go this route, the funding is already committed, the new laws have already been pushed through in the "stimulus" bill, and the main stream media has flatly ignored it.
Obama is telling us that he's listening to all ideas and opinions, but the "dye is cast" as they say. You might say...So what? it's free medical care and it will be good for the poor people. to which i say to you first of all........you're stupid, nothing is free. Now that we've established that, i also say why haven't the media been telling us the real story about the single payer system?
If you want to get a little taste of how bad it really is, check out the HORROR STORIES
editors note: If for some reason you don't know Mark Levin, he is second ONLY to Rush in the conservative talk radio world.......AND IT'S CLOSE.
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Again, the libs don't think. They only feel as though they are doing somebody a favor. They feel they are helping the poor. The fact that disturbs me the most is that the libs don't even know what is coming. They have no clue that they are going to suffer along with the rest of us in the socialized healthcare world. Their ignorance is just plain fucked up.
First of all, for the record, it's "the die is cast." Second, there are as many horror stories about private health care as public health care. I think that everyone in this country should have access to good health care. Reasonable people may disagree as to how to get there from here.
is it "the die is cast"? as in a pair of dice? I always thought is was dye as in coloring or ink. Which to me would mean it's already decided. If it's dice and it's just "cast" couldn't the outcome still be favorable or at least different?
If you are indeed correct then i have changed it and made it better. If you are wrong, then it would be the same as the rest of your comment.
Everyone in this country does have access to good health care. Reasonable people may disagree on what is "good" health care, but anyone with a brain would agree that no industrialized nation has better health care for the majority of it's citizens than we do. More importantly, we have a ton of evidence that says the single payer system does not work, so switching to that system is just stupid. And yet, that is exactly what Obama intends to do. It makes no sense if his true agenda is to improve health care for everyone. It only makes sense if his true agenda is to make everyone more dependent on the government. More government control of our lives is obviously the aim, unless you're telling me that he's stupid. Unfortunately it doesn't matter, because THE DYE IS CAST.
"Die" is actually singular, which makes "dye" all the more logical. If the expression was at one point in fact "die" its no longer relevant in the modern age. What kind of jackass plays craps with just one die?
But anyone that has played lacrosse and personalized their stick knows that once you place the head in the boiling Rit dye there is no turning back. Hell even tie-dye wearing hippies know that.
More importantly, every country or US State (ask Mass and Hawaii) that has tried the single pay system) regrets it and have either abandoned it or is trying to.
Like most liberal causes (global warming, education) its a money and power grab plain and simple. They have no interest in finding the solution so much as controlling the "problem" on their terms.
Take for example Obama's Three Point plan. On one hand he says raising taxes on capital will raise revenues yet on the other he says raising taxes on carbon will cut emissions. Either one is true or neither is true, you cant have it both ways and expect me to take the liberal argument seriously.
Actually I think it's "die" in the sense of "a device used for cutting out, forming, or stamping material". So, once the metal die is cast it's set.
As for a national health care plan, they have it in England and Canada. Watch "Sicko". It's imperfect to be sure, and yet so popular that even Margaret Thatcher had to pledge that she would keep it in place.
Everyone has health care to the extent that if you have a heart attack without health insurance, you will be treated. But you can't have good health care on a regular basis unless you have health insurance, which many don't. Me, for one.
If conservatives object to Obama's plans on health care, then what alternative would you suggest?
OK, I googled "die is cast" and apparently it is die as the singular of dice. Goes back to Ceaser apparently.
http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/index.pperl?date=19970521
gary if you have a heart attack you get treatment. everyone in this country gets emergency health care.
My suggestion, which I believe would really help someone like yourself who doesn't have health insurance is to deregulate. Let any insurance company sell in any state, let everyone buy the level that they want. Competition would bring the prices down.
If you don't have health insurance, but you could get basic 1 checkup a year and catastrophe insurance for $25 bucks a month i'm sure you would take it. I also think they should cap the malpractice lawsuits. Doctors in this country pay ridiculous $ on insurance and those costs are passed on to us.
Honestly,I don't know enough about the situation to say for sure that all of this is possible, but i DO know that the single payer system doesn't work.
You say people want it, well of course they do. Nobody wants to give up the freebie and that's what Obama is counting on.
The funny thing about this is that the industry that's probably lobbying the most for it is big business. Socialized medicine gets them off the hook for health insurance.
FINALLY, a major point of the post and Mark Levin's story is that NOBODY in the main stream media is reporting this stuff. Gary, maybe you would want it anyway. Maybe the majority of Americans would want it anyway. But don't you think the American media should be doing their jobs and at least reporting on the fact that socialized medicine has these serious problems? I don't think an informed electorate would be in favor of this, and that's why Obama and co. slipped it into the middle of a "stimulus" bill. They're all chanting the same slogan now.."never let a crisis go to waste"....they don't even hide it. They're using the financial downturn to bamboozle you and push their agenda along without any inspection. And yet you just go right along with it..baaaaa ....baaaaaaa
Im beside myself that the whole "dont waste a crisis" thing has become official policy. It was one thing for Rahm to let it slip, but then Hillary and now Obama himself.
Its digusting.
Banking crisis? Lets send dumb kids to college
Bear market? Lets tax carbon
Housing collapse? Lets ration healthcare so its mediocre for all
There was a time when our leaders were actually expected to lead through times of crisis, not completely ignore it.
A fair media and the mobs would be storming the White House. This Obama character is a fucking joke.
... but Bush was the bad guy for being mean to terrorists.
You say that the majority of the people and big business want it. If so, we'll probably have it. Democracy, after all. As for deregulation of the insurance companies. Maybe, but I'm skeptical. Deregulation always seems to have catastrophic consequences, whether it was the savings and loan industries or the energy companies. I believe in capitalism, really I do, but carefully regulated.
But if capitalism needs to be reformed, and it does, so does government and I share your skepticism of big government. Our country needs honest and intelligent conservatism to keep us liberals on our toes.
Unfortunately, modern "conservatism", and it really must be put in quotes, is badlyfragmented and, frankly, stupid. I thought Andrew Sullivan's "The Conservative Soul" was good. Perhaps you've read it. If not you should. But Rush Limbaugh and Michael Savage and Sarah Palin do your cause no credit. Conservatism has been reduced to the lowest common denominator."Drill, baby, drill." You can't go on saying that all we need to do is cut taxes for the rich and deregulate. What the hell do you think happened the last eight years? Those policies might have worked, but they didn't.
Have you checked out The American Freedom Agenda? There's a group that points to a new direction (or maybe an old one) for conservatives. As Patrick Buchanan points to a new direction for foreign policy. A conservatism that rejects "signing statements" and illegal wiretaps, torture and the national security state. The Bush administration, as the latest memos show, layed the groundwork for a dictatorship in this country. Many on my side of the aisle thought he just might do it. Maybe he lacked the support but I think rather that in the end he believed in Democracy after all.
According to Daniel Hopsicker's book "Welcome to Terrorland" there was an attempt to assassinate Bush on the morning of September 11, 2001. Then Cheney would have been President. Professor Peter Dale Scott seems to suspect Cheney in 9/11. I'm not convinced but I have too much respect for Scott (and too little for Cheney) to reject the idea out of hand.
Your last comment was just flat out stupid.
Seriously Gary, i don't like to do this, i usually leave it up to Donkey to make this point, but.......You're an idiot.
Cheney is behind 9/11? Really? Just too stupid to address.
You think deregulation of the savings and loans was the cause of the failures? Really? How about it was the stupid bankers who made bad loans...Hmmmm....why does that sound familiar??? Oh yeah because the most heavily regulated industry in the history of our country (banking)is failing right now. Why? Oh yeah, because they made stupid loans to people who couldn't pay them back....Of course they were in some cases FORCED TO GIVE THESE LOANS BECAUSE OF OVERREGULATION...but still, they didn't argue when they were getting paid..
You think Rush is the lowest common denominator? Really? So you've listened to him? read his stuff? No. Drill Baby Drill does not define the conservative movement, it was a chant at a rally when the subject came up. You would understand this if you understood the movement.
You think Capitalism needs to be reformed? Really?
How about Capitalism needs to be TRIED!!!!!
Did I say Cheney was behind 9/11? Really? It would be nice to know who are what was, and maybe one day we will know. But I doubt it
Oh, and guys the trouble with responding to a comment by saying "You're stupid" is that I can cleverly reply by saying "No, you're stupid."
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