"Tomorrow is the last day that America will be a First World country as we go through the motions of a "free and fair" election. By evening, we will sit stunned as the last vestiges of liberty swirl down the gutter of history and more folks climb into the wagon, expecting to be pushed.
And as Chicago smolders by dawn on Wednesday, we will awaken in The America We Deserve for our gross lassitude and negligence. We have no excuse. We were warned." -- See Jane Mom
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ha ... quite the opposite.
this election is one which has the potential of returning our country to the place of respect it once held in the world and making it, once again, a land of promise for all, not just the privilged few.
if see jane mom thinks that a country that provides affirmative action to the rich and well connected while taking basic human liberties from those less fortunate, then she's does not know what america is about, she knows not what the founders of this land were aiming to craft and SHE is part of this country that is anti-american.
it's truly sad. but the people have spoken. and the age of radical evangelicalism, the age of hatred of one's fellow citizens must end. and hopefully this is the beginning of that road.
you, seejanemom, have been REBUKED. now go back to your vicious, ugly den of hatred and stew awhile.
your ideas are no longer are relevant.
Anita, you couldn't be more wrong. This country has just jumped onto "The Road To Serfdom" with this election. We were on this road before, in the early 70's and what happened? Reagan.
We have veered sharply leftward and the country will pay a heavy price. I wish i was wrong, but i believe in a very short time i'll be saying "Jane told you so".
BTW, to say that anyone's ideas have been rebuked with 48% of the electorate voting one way and 52% another is a little bit silly.
when the house and senate and executive branch all flip, that, to me is a rebuke.
when the new york state legislature turns blue, that to me is a rebuke.
it says people are hurting, it says the government has failed to live up to its end of the bargain.
jane will not tell ME so. because jane is a hate filled, bitter, angry woman. and i don't listen to the likes of her.
Anita, if you want to say there was a rebuke of George Bush i can say ok, maybe that's true but to say that there is a rebuke of evangelicalism and to equate it with hatred of your fellow man is outrageous. To say that the ideas of 48% of the electorate are not relevant is also pretty ridiculous.
Sure people are hurting, but compare the lives of the "poor" in this country to the lives of the poor in socialist, big government countries and tell me again how hurting they are. Compare health care here and health care in Canada or England and tell me again that the conservative ideas have failed.
When you see the unions grab so much power from this "card check" deal and you see worker productivity go down and prices go up tell me again we've been rebuked.
No Anita, Jane is right. More people are hopping on the wagon and expecting to be pushed and the sad thing is that they will be for a while with this president and this congress and it will be you and me and Jane that does the pushing because we are Hank Reardon and unfortunately we are living in what used to be Galts Gulch.
even the most ardent of ayn rand accolytes, greenspan, has acknowledged that her philosophy has been proven to be highly flawed.
Greenspan is your guiding light on Ayn Rand?
So what does he say about Obama's philosophy?
no, he's not my guiding light on ayn rand, but he knew her and her philosophy formed much of his own thoughts on how markets and capitalism work. the concept that unfettered markets will always work properly and to the betterment of mankind. we have new and startling reason to believe that that is not the case.
for greenspan to distance himself from one of his primary intellectual mentors is a pretty profound and meaningful development.
Greenspan rejected 1 principle of Ayn Rands philosophy, and why? because he wrongly blames it for the recent collapse of the credit markets when in fact it was government over regulation that happened on HIS WATCH that caused it. Even your boy BJ Clinton admitted as much.
Greenspan's self serving rejection at this late stage of the game is clearly intended to deflect attention from his personal failure and complicity in these events.
sorry, rhino. it was the fact that these derivatives, the mortgage-backed securities, went UNREGULATED that resulted in this fiasco. there were calls in the 1990's (see: Brookley Born) for oversight but they rejected by Rubin and Greenspan and Clinton.
on this issue, you are wrong.
Don't be sorry, just understand that you're wrong.
It was rejected by Clinton and Greenspan for a reason. They were pressuring the lending institutions to give loans to people who couldn't pay for them. It was government influence in private industry that created the mess in the first place.
The mortgage backed securities were created by private industry specifically to reduce the risk that they were forced to take on and it was Clinton and Greenspan who allowed and even encouraged fannie and freddie to buy them.
And who took the biggest hit? fannie and freddie. Why? because the government was involved in buying mortgages and was forced to bail them out.
So to say that Ayn Rand's philosophy was wrong based on recent events is just plain silly. Goverment is intertwined with everything we do now and was certainly heavily involved in this current credit crunch. There is no pure free enterprise and the further we get away from her philosophy, the closer we get to serfdom.
Well since you typed it in caps then it must be TRUE. Oh no I done did been REBUKED!
It really is a shame that despite Obama's victory you remain as bitter as ever. Lighten up Anita, you are a winner!
Honest to god I fear for the well being and safety of liberals now that they will have noone to blame. Who are liberals going to call Hitler now? It cant be Obama or youre a racist.
My guess is that the suicide rate is about to increase drastically amongst college professors and journalists. Kind of like how old married couples die within days of each other after their only reason to stick around is gone.
Now I want you to pay very close attention to what Im about say.
Liberalism did not defeat Conservatism. A well spoken liberal defeated a slightly less liberal mumble mouth. Thats all. No big deal. In a two party system, power shifts. Its how it works.
However I have full faith and confidence in the incompetentcy of the democrats to hand that power back sooner rather than later. My taxes will go up, unions will destroy more industry and Ill have to fly to the Bahamas for heart surgery but MY country has survived worse than the democrats.
For fucks sake if a nuclear engineer with executive experience like Jimmy Carter gave us a Reagan Im getting bloodflow already thinking about what great conservative emerges from the sidelines after an empty suit like Obama.
Im sorry, I dont want to be accused of racism.... a Wellspokenemptysuit-American like Obama.
On a more humorous note I loved how in his speech last night he said that he probably wouldnt be able to accomplish anything he promised. He hasnt even been sworn in yet and hes already running for re-election. Not even a lil' hope? Small change?
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